I'm saddened to see this kind of hatred blatantly advertised. While I respect freedom of thought and speech, those freedoms stop short of causing harm to other people in a community. The Nazis put up similar signs like these when they were discriminating against Jews for their religion and ethnic roots. They believed that they were divinely guided by their religion, and we all know what the outcome was of demonizing a group of people.

As a Muslim, how can I be of the devil if I believe in one God, whether his Arabic name is "Allah", his Jewish name "Elohim" or "Yahweh", or his Christian name is "Lord" or "Father". How can I be of the devil when I believe in all of God's prophets in the Testament, from Adam, Enoch, Jacob, Job, Jonah, Joseph, John, David, Ezekial, Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, to Noah, Jesus, and Moses. All these names are mentioned in my scripture, the Quran. How can I be of the devil when the Quran exalts Mary, mother of Jesus, and places her in the highest ranking above all women in the world? How can I be of the devil when I believe in God's angels, namely Gabriel, Michael, and Israfeel. How can I be of the devil when the Quran tells me that Satan led Adam and Eve out of heaven, challenged God, and seeks to root out virtue from all human beings. How can I be of the devil when my Prophet, Muhammad, of the house of Ishmael, a descendant of Abraham and part of the prophetic family asks me to be speak the truth, spread goodness, show mercy, and give charity to the poor and needy. How can I be of the devil when I believe in a Judgement Day and a Heaven and Hell? Do not all these things I mentioned reside within the heart of Christianity and Judaism?

Do not presume to stereotype and generalize perceptions about my faith that are the result of criminal actions by a group of fanatics. These fanatics are of the same stock, who employ religion, to spread hate, as their Christian or Jewish, or any other religious group fanatic counterparts would do. Their motives are political, radical, ethno-centric, and racist. To say that I am of the devil because I'm a muslim exhibits ignorance about Islam. I am a Muslim, and I am proud.

It not only angers me to again see hate from so called spiritual organizations, but I'm embarrassed that our area is so ignorant and we're broadcasting it to the world to see how behind southerners really are.

The sign is offensive and hateful. Things that are not typically associated with Christianity. If this church wishes to preach from it's pulpits the "hatred of Islam" that is one thing, but to assume that their opinion is "the only way" is just wrong. If I were Christian I'd be offended by this sign and the fact that it puts word in the mouths of ALL Christians, even if you don't subscribe to the same beliefs. If their belief is to teach others that Jesus is the only way, then they should be teaching that ministry instead of spreading hate. I am proud to be a Muslim and I would be happy to share the facts about Islam with anyone who is confused about it and wants to learn.

Check the pastor out! He flew from Germany (City of Cologne) because his cult-members there detected some tax differences wirh his "church". Christliche Gemeinde Köln is a small cult wich was founded by Jones in the 1980's. Then he married his second wife in 1998 and after that the church was more and more becoming a cult.
Check the homepage http://www.doveworld.org/ and then the academy page.
They surely have some tax differences in USA too, because they use church money to renovate their private houses.

greetings
gerry

The sign is a gesture of love? Wow! I am feeling all warm and fuzzy inside.

As an Insider for many years I know that DWOC is not a Christian church but a cult, where young people are misused to make money that goes directly on the Jonses account. My own children spent months there, they worked late hours cleaning and packing furniture and did not even receive proper food. They were told they would be building the Kingdom of God. As far as I know there are still people with a religious visa working for his furniture company, which is against the law. T.Jones has lost all his other churches, in Frankfurt, Aachen, Cologne, Tampa, New Orleans... He left Germany because of massive finacial misuse, which he admitted by paying a great amount back to the church in Cologne . Please, if you can, stop him!!

Hi there,
I have been a member in Terry Jones church in Cologne Germany over 20 years and have been one of the elders until 2008. He and his wife are conducted by "narcissism".
We really was shocked to see the videos and the comments.
I think it is imperative, that the Jones couple do not only take a clear stand regarding the Islam, but also to take a clear stand to there criminal activities
in Germany. Ask Terry Jones about illegal money transfers, private payments from offerings and tithes, unpaid debts in Germany, financial and
spiritual abuse of church members and much more.
In Gainesville you have the same situations.
What about the academy of DWOC???
What about the illegal workers in DWOC???
In the past many people came from Germany to Gainesville with a religious visa and ended up working for his private business. (See ebay under: tsandcompany and artcollector-usa").
He confronts sin, but what about his and Sylvias sins.???
We can give you much more informations, if you want.
I myself have been several times in Gainesville and know how this people act. Why did he escape from Germany????
It was not the Islam or persecution, it ws fear.
Fear to take responsibility for the things that he has done here and in the church of Cologne. The founders wife "Dolores Northrup" also left the church some month ago, because she could not anymore agree with the
activities of Sylvia and Terry Jones.
Best regards
voicelss
Cologne, Germany

Ohh boy!! The Church is now finally going down the drain!!
Keep up the good work protesting and taking legal steps against them!!
I my self come frome cologne germany and have been in gainesville working for them for a year.(2007) When i wanted to leave and go back to my life and job in germany and disagreed with the work they were doing in gainesville they threatend me spoke out bad things over my children and my wife!!!
wow What a Pastor that must call him self "President Dr. Terry Jones of Dove Charismatic ministries" to feel like he is somebody.

Dan the Man

Hallo,
I was one divide the municipality in Cologne, where pastor was T. Jones, but I dont woudl say, that his Man is a Christian, because his has used young people for job and more many, that don't make pastor, however, also no Christian.
Asked him, what his doing whitch many for funitur that his sale in Ebay?..
He with whole Islam thing wants more attention and reflect in his own eyes, and all that.
Cologne, Germany

I have seen the sign and the video explanation by Terry Jones. I have read the other comments above by previous members and agree with them. They , Terry and Sylvia Jones, have a personal agenda and has become a cult by definition.
It saddens me to see the church founded by Dr. & Mrs. Donald Northrup nearly 30 years ago come to this point!! Jesus was and is LOVE. I guess all Muslums can now assume that ALL CHRISTIANS believe this way since Terry Jones ( I have not used Doctor. as he does not have a doctorate in anything it is self proclaimed) has blanketed all those who practice Islam. How sad!! Hopefully as many have already stated the officials will look into the working practices taking place at DWOC.

All I know is that there is only one way to God and Heaven. His name is Jesus Christ. If you are one of His, You will know it.

Honestly what is the worl coming to when a church thats is supposed to be a place of love and respect puts up a sign with such a negative and hate filled message, in the bible it says that you shall not judge or you shall be judged, what give's this church the right to say something ike that toward someone. the foundation that is being placed here is one of small minded, and imature people, and this is supposed to be a place of god!!!!! They said that they would be placing more signs like same sex, and abortion well i've talked my friends and fmily about this and we have come to the conclusion that this is wrong disgusting, and ashame!!!!!! we will be going out there to let our thoughts and where we stand known!

It is sad to see how the west and particularly people in the US have a bad conception about Islam and Muslims in general.Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance followed by people all over the world from Asia , to Africa , Europe , and here in the US.
The Quran teaches us to be tolerant towards other revealed religions and says:”…who who kills an innocent man is like one that killed the whole Humanity “ and :” who who save a man it is like he saved the whole humanity..”
Such teachings of justice tolerance and brotherhood among religions cant be from the devil.
The views and evil actions of a small group of extremists that give a bad image of muslims doesn’t represent the view of the vast majority of the 1.5 billions of peaceful muslims followers all over the world or Islam which is the fastest growing religion on earth.
Furthermore Islam shares more common views with the 2 other revealed religions which are Christianity and Judaism than differences.
The only main difference between Islam and Christianity is Jesus who is considered as a Prophet of God as Moses and Abraham and all the other prophets and messengers of God in Islam , Jesus has a particular position in Islam and Mary mother of Jesus has an entire sourate, sourate 19th dedicated to her and to the birth of Jesus in the Quran .
Christians believe that salvation can only be obtained by salvation through the Christ and that He is son of God, Jesus never uttered those words he was son of God and said :

“Joh 7:16 Jesus answered them and said, "My doctrine is not Mine, but His
who sent Me.
Joh 12:49 "For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who
sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.

Joh 6:38 "For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but
the will of Him who sent Me.
Mr 10:18 And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good
but God alone

Joh 7:16 So Jesus answered them, "My teaching is not mine, but his who
sent me;

Jesus called himself son of man and refused to be called son of God.
"And the devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them suffered them not to speak; for they knew that he was Christ." (Luke 4:41)
Some Christians, (not all) claim that Jesus implied that he was God. From the above verses, we
see that Jesus denied being God. It now leaves the Christians who believe Jesus is God to provide just one single verse in the Bible where Jesus says "I am God". There is no such verse, so we see from the many quotes above, that the House did not belong to Jesus, it belonged to the ONE WHO SENT him.
The Quran, informs us that Jesus was a human messenger of God whose sole mission was to deliver God's message; he never possessed any power, and is now dead (4:171, 5:75, 117).
Those who consider Jesus to be God, or Son of God, or part of a trinity are "pagans" (5:17, 72, 73). Outstanding Christian scholars have reached these same conclusions (THE MYTH OF GOD INCARNATE, John Hick, ed., The Westminster Press, Philadelphia, 1977 & THE MYTH MAKER, Hyam Maccoby,Harper & Row 1986). Christianity is the product of Nicene (AD 325).


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Mercy,

I wish and pray that you will go and read all of the book of John. Jesus claimed to be the Son Of Man and The Son Of God. That is the main reason the Religious leaders of his day had him crucified. They said he was blaspheming, but he proved them wrong. Jesus arose from the Dead, Mohammed did not.

.You Quote John 7:16,John12:49,John 6:38,and Mark 10:18. Yet You Leave out John 6:26-40
Jesus Talks about and Claims to be the Bread of Heaven .
In verse 35 Jesus Says " I am the Bread of Life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst."
John 38 -Jesus says, "For I come down from Heaven , not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me."
John 40-Jesus says, "and this is the will of him that sent me, that everyone which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up on the last day

The media is missing the big picture. If Terry sought to bring attention to ISLAM, he has been more successful in putting the spot light on himself, his ministry and his intolerance to others. There is no salvation outside of my beliefs sounds oddly familiar.

Dove Charismatic Ministries In is entitled to their non-profit exemption because they are a Church. The hate sign against ISLAM is only a smoke screen to distract from the real issue which is the Terry and Sylvia Jones ministry as a cult and use of Dove Charismatic Ministries Inc as a legal storefront to transfer and brain wash free labor from Cologne Germany to the Gainesville Dove Academy to support Terry's financial empire: TS and Company, Art Collector-USA, Dos Bananos, Luke and Anna Jones Furniture Company, and others. The last two companies import furniture and furnishings from Europe with merchandise consigned to Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville (non-profit entity) according to a Customs web site. What were they been "persecuted for" and called a sect in Cologne during the past several years. Why have they left Cologne and and why have they closed down the New Orleans Christian Center (NOCC)? Why is there a sudden interest in selling out Dove World Charismatic Ministries profit enterprise (and the prfit businesses) for $4,000,000.00 ---( 20acres originally bought for less than $200,000) ? Are the sect and fraud and fiduciary investigations that will follow them from Cologne to Gainesville making the kitchen too hot? Need to cash out in Gainesville while there is time. The Cologne source of free labor has closed out. Other than pastoral salaries and housing allowances, what else is TS and Company ($10-15K a week business) supporting for Dove's financial shortfalls?

The fact that there isn't one single Christian denomination or non-denominational church in Gainesville that has supported, endorsed or defended the hate sign says a lot.. Terry's honorary doctorate degree in theology is from a school of theology in California. Is the school accredited? accredited?. He obviously lacks the knowledge of apologetics, soteriology and ISLAM to intelligently discourse the evils of ISLAM issue publicly with Islamic experts in front of the press or media .. His religion is patterned after Rick Joyner and Todd Bentley ministries and others and does not subscribe to Christian love. Couples that revolt from his sect are punished, fired or encouraged to divorce their spouse.

The FEDS, IRS, Immigration and Children and Families need to launch an in-depth investigation. Forget about the non-profit issue which has already been determined to be a non issue.

Terry has pastored Dove for eight years since 2001 . If you subtract all the pastors, leadership, praise and worship group, Academy students, and Sunday school children .... the steady congregation number is closer to 35 or 40 and is far from reaching the vision of 300, 700,2200 prophetic goals for church growth many years ago. How can Academy students evangelize and study theology after working a 72 hour work week? Where is the Dove World Outreach church growth? Were it not for the profit businesses, Dove would have closed up years ago.

THOUGHT FOR THE DAY: Apocalipsis 2: 2 to the Church of Ephesus:
" I know thy works and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil; and thou hast tried them that say that they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars"


Pastor Don Northrup must be turning in his grave.

Too hot and humid in Gainesville. I am going back to Cologne next Monday.

** Response to Hussam Kubtan **

While do not agree with this church's approach. I do agree with their message.

Hussam is a typical muslim propagandist with a revisionist view of history. But most importantly, he argument is void of any historical fact.

Muslims most often like to portray God as "Arabic name is "Allah", his Jewish name "Elohim" or "Yahweh", or his Christian name is "Lord" or "Father" -- as the same God to confuse people. This is a tactic that most muslims use pervert the Bible to bring people to islam.

Let's be clear. There is only one way to God, only one way to salvation, and that is through the blood of our Lord Jesus Christ.

I would urge anyone who believes that islam is a peaceful religion to pick a Middle Eastern country of your choosing and live there. Let me know how that works out for you.

Anyone with a cursory examination of the "historical" Mohamed would know that he was a soldier that masscred tens of thousands of people in the name of allah. I won't even mention his personal life, fit for Shakespeare. Mohamed was a fraud, merely a soldier with political aspirations.


Your propaganda might work on the village idiot or the secular progressives in this country ... so please, spare me the garbage.

@Baltazar

Although you have apparently designated yourself as the judge of who gets to stay in America and who should leave, the world belongs to God and we can move wherever the heck we want.

I actually did what you said. After converting to Shia Islam many years ago, I moved to the Middle East for seven years. It was seven of the most wonderful years of my life. I love my country but also acknowledge, like too few of my countrymen, that there is a world out there to be known. My time in the Persian Gulf and later in Syria was marked by some of the most extraordinary relationships and some of the kindest people you can imagine. These countries, like our own, have serious problems. But neither they nor we will solve our problems unless we learn to cooperate.

Muhammed fought for justice and for the defense and advancement of faith. He fought courageously when his community was attacked, and only participated in four battles during his lifetime. We are very proud of the Prophet, the message he brought, and the life he lived. We cannot excuse the excesses that have been done in the name of Islam throughout history, as you should not excuse those committed in the name of Christ.

So in return, dear Baltazar, I invite _you_ to visit a Middle Eastern country to test your hypothesis. Keep your faith, it is yours and you should cherish it. But it is harmful to yourself and to others for you to be walking around with this comic book version of what life is like.

As an Atheist, I don't believe in God, and certainly not in the Devil. However, I have to say that if there indeed existed an evil supernatural being, based on my readings of the life of the self proclaimed islamic prophet, islam would be of the devil.

You don't need to go very far to reach that conclusion:
Mohammed had regular sexual intercourse with his 9 year old child bride.
Mohammed stoned several people to death, including a new mother.
Mohammed had hundreds of captive prisoners of war beheaded, including male children.
...and the list goes on and on and on. Truly sickening.
Those who do not see evil in islam are those who have not studied it enough. And that is the raw truth, if it offends you or not.

Ridiculous, Alvin. If you cannot separate a religion from the perpetrators of violence, you're a sad fool. I admire the beautiful example of Prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him), and I strive to imitate his kindness, justice, and tolerance for others. Luckily I'm a New Yorker, so I know for a fact that there are plenty of atheists who aren't as prejudiced and judgmental as you are.

I noticed some of the comments above say they are "proud" to be Muslim. I respect their loyalty to Islam in the face of opposition but Islam actually teaches us humility. We submit to our Creator as Muslims. We accept that God will judge us on our actions and we are not here to judge anyone.

The "raw truth" is that most of us are the product of our upbringing, whatever your religion and nationality. My community on Long Island, NY loved and accepted me my entire life, despite the fact that most were not religious families and my family is devoutly Muslim - and as a result you will hardly find a more loyal American. I defy anyone who threatens my family, my country or my religion. I'm privileged to be American and I'm privileged to be Muslim. And if you try to take either away from me, you will have bit off more than you can chew. No one messes with a New Yorker - not terrorists and not citizens. Oh, did I mention we're not scared to speak our minds? :P

Peace out,
Sarah

Obviously America (and all nations) have some repenting to do as well as this pastor as related on this comments blog. The annointing of God is Christ and in Christ.
That is our sure power, victory and rejoicing and everything else that is in Christ the Son of God, the Son of Man

Interesting!!!
Let me first clearify couple of misunderstanding or perverted understanding as I would love to call.
First , US is not a christian Nation
Neither all whites are Christians.
Going to church, getting a christian, and following certain christian doctrine name does not make a person "christian".

Also US has a very perverted understanding of "freedom".
Let me tell you wether you choose to Love or choose to Hate and express it could be considered as the freedom of expression.

The opposite of Freedom is Law and Order. Because Law is binding and it binds people to do what the Law says and not how they feel. Law and order is brought into existance and enforced for the Lawless people. For the sake of freedom of expression one cannot just do what he /she wants but they need to follow the rule of the Law.

Then the question is how to set a rule of the law and define it appropiately. Or is the law that is defined and enforced is perverted.

Take the example of perverted law which is now a days created, ie the same sex mariage- which is against the very nature of Science, Social Norms and the law of God. Against Science because man and woman are the beings with different sexes so that they can copulate and reproduce and multiply. The union between a man and a woman is the natural process were as the union between the same sex is perversion and against the nature. Similarly there is a social norm in the family and then there is the law established by God, (over here Yahovah or God the Father or Jesus Christ- because there is no other God besides Him and no other name besides the Name of Jesus)

The Cahtolic Church or some denominational churches are not the voice of God, neither they reflect or translate the Law or Ordinances of God to mankind because they are perverted.
Religions are the creation of men to satisfy the deep desire and hunger for God who is the creator of the Earth and the Universe and the Mankind. Because of their blindness and corruption of their hearts they have defined God in their own way and have chosen their own paths to reach the very same One God whom they do not know, neither they can see or reach Him.

Jesus Christ never came to create a religion or a christian religion or a religion of Love etc.. Religion (including the catholic religion) is the biggest deception ever created to decieve and turn people away from God and to lead them into a false hope of salvation or the way of God.

Jesus Christ is the Word of God Personified, or God became a Man. Why? To Save the world from SIN. Why to Save? Because man had fallen in SIN in the sight of God.
Why God is interested in the Lost World or the Sinful Man? Because God is Love and He does not want anybody to be destroyed forever.

Why God chose to became a Man and save the world and not just save it anyway maybe by one global and spectacular miracle or sign?
It is because God is a Just and Righteous God. He does not violate His Laws. A Man can be redeemed by the price paid by another Man. God had to become Man inorder to pay the price for the SIN of mankind. And He (Jesus) paid the price as a Man (flesh and blood) and not as God.

Why God did not use any other seed of Man to same the mankind? Because All Men are sinners. Every man who is born of a man is born with the seed of SIN and hence every man is a born sinner. And a SINNER cannot save himself leave alone the world. Only a SINLESS Man can redeem the mankind.

Then was JESUS SINLESS?
Jesus was born of the Spirit of God and not of any seed of man. (If your study science, the seed is only given by the male and not female. Females are only the carrier of the seed to develop and nuture and deliver it. Though without women nobody can be reproduced, it is the male that puts the seed inside the womans womb for the birth of life. That is the reason a virgin was concieved by the Spirit of God, ie the seed of God was planted into a virgin called Mary. (Mary was not the mother of God). She was just the carrier chosen by God to carry the seed of God till it is born in Flesh. And that is the reason Mary is not Divine. God is not like a Man with Flesh and blood, neither He has a Wife or a Female God to reproduce. Sex is the Creation of God in makind and animal kingdom. It is the Law or the Technology created by God for the process of reproduction. God is The Spirit and God is The WORD. And God created every thing by the WORD. Also the same WORD became flesh in Mary's womb which we later saw as Jesus Christ a complete Man and a complete God.
Now this is a little bit of technology and law which God used to redeem the mankind.

So blaming any religion and hating people who are blinded and follow them is not the answer. The answer is the Opening of the eyes of these people so that they see the truth. Once truth is revealed, no need to convince them, they will know it and they will KNOW GOD.

As far as dealing with the Terrorism or killings by any religion or groups is a national Law and Order problem and it should be dealt within the Law of the Land.

Lets not spread Hate even for the people who believe in Islam or any other religion BECAUSE JESUS DIED FOR THEIR SIN AS WELL, AND THEY ARE ENTITLED FOR SALVATION IF THEY BELIEVE IN JESUS AND HIS DEATH FOR THE REDEMPTION OF THEIR SIN.


GOD HATES RELIGION.

Looks like everyone is into burning these days, even " He who art in the Heaven". See:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jun/15/lightning-strike-destroys-jesus-statue/.

read the quran...it is full of the most vile hate I have ever read. i find it impossible to believe that muslims the world over can read this book and not notice the hatefulness in practically every one of the 114 totalitarian chapters. i wonder how many muslims the world over crave to burn this book...but are so afraid for their life. i wonder how many muslim women are so afraid to burn this book. I wonder how many little girls are so very afraid of the monsters that visit them a night under the authority of this book. anyone who values religous freedom...read the darn book. anyone who values freedom of thought...read the darn book. womens rights...read the book. tolerance and love for gay people...read the book. you might be asking if I am for the burning of quran...it is not about burning it it is about reading it so you can discern first-hand the totalitarian nature of this 1400 year old idealogy. religion of peace...please, please read the book.

People don't like to hear the truth. It was like that back in days of Jesus and is the same now. Sad to say if John the Baptist or Jesus were hear now they would be arrested for hate speech. Truth will make you free if you know him.

A reminder to keep things in perspective: This organization has NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION. There have been many hate groups through the years that call themselves "churches" in order to gain public attention and cause agitation in civilized society. Don't be fooled -- this is as much of a "church" as Pee-Wee's Playhouse and McDonald's.
PS The Jones' business partner and fellow "pastor," Wayne Sapp, who viciously denounces homosexuals as messengers of the devil, has been accused of having homosexual relations with several members of his "flock," but he certainly is not representative of homosexuals; rather, while assigning himself the title "pastor," he is a hateful, confused, ignorant, deceptive, lawless and dangerous criminal devoid of moral and ethical values. In this sense, he ranks as low as his partners in crime, Terry and Sylvia Jones.